Michael Crawford [Phantom] [Archive]

sing_for_me

05-10-2005, 03:21 AM

Unfortunately, and I get bashed a lot by this from phans, I do not like Michael Crawford in any way, shape, or form. Obviously I would never have gotten to see him, because I hadn't been born yet either, but I really do not like his voice.

I'm not sure I can really pinpoint exactly. For one thing, I hear absolutely no emotion in his voice, and I feel that emotion is a necessary thing for anyone playing the Phantom. And I think I just don't like how his voice sounds.

I don't know...

cinty

05-10-2005, 07:46 AM

I never got to see him perform either, as, like everyon else, I was too young. I've never seen Phantom on stage at all actually.
But... I absolute LOVE Michael Crawford. His voice, to me is the Angel of Music. He can sound Angelic and beautiful (Music of the Night) heartbroken (all I ask of you reprise and the end of Down Once More) Seductive and entrancing (Point of NO Return) forceful (most of Down Once More and end of All i ask of you Reprise) and every other emotion that embodies the character of Erik. I think he LOOKS like Erik would look. He is older, like Erik was. I think he was absolutely the best Phantom ever.
I have also been a Michael Crawford fan for years, from the musical "hello Dolly" and playing Frank Spencer in "Some Mothers do Have em". I think he is soooo talented. His singing voice is utterly superb.
I wish I could have seen him perform. When I saw him and Sarah Brightman singing Music of the Night on my dvd, I practically jumped over the moon!

wolfwynd

05-10-2005, 12:26 PM

*thinks of something nice to say about MC*....

*10 hours later...* nope nothing....

*another 10 hours later* - oh yeah, he does a good MOTN!

Other than that I just cannot stand the guy - sorry...

Reza Khan

05-11-2005, 03:40 AM

Originally posted by sing_for_me
Unfortunately, and I get bashed a lot by this from phans, I do not like Michael Crawford in any way, shape, or form. Obviously I would never have gotten to see him, because I hadn't been born yet either, but I really do not like his voice.
I guess I'll be bashed with you because I agree fully. I do admit that all I've heard of his singing is the bit they show on the PotO DVD (special features!), but that bit was enough to turn me off completely. He sounded like a girl with a plugged nose! I could sing the Phantom's songs better than him, and I'm a first soprano.

Meh. I just don't like him.

Elizabeth

Phantom of Eternia

05-11-2005, 04:20 AM

It took me time to like his voice as well, now I perfer Gerry Butler over him in most respects (to me at least, I sense a lot of passion in Gerry's voice) but there a somethings about Crawford's Phantom (the way he cries in Straneger than You Dreamt it before he has "repulsive carcass" and his evil laugh and his "she is signing to bring down the Chandilier!" [since they changed the chandlier crash in the movie and he doesn;t say that line any more] but over all I like Gerry better:tp3:

Reza Khan

05-11-2005, 05:40 PM

I would love to find a soundtrack with him on it. Maybe if I heard more, I would like him, but as of right now, I really don't see how in the world I could.

Elizabeth

cinty

05-12-2005, 04:48 AM

You could buy the "Original cast highlights" Ever since we got that, my movie soundtrack has been utterly ignored. I can never fail to be entranced by his voice. No offence to poor Gerard... but I just can't listen to him with much patience any more... MC just blew him away.

sing_for_me

05-13-2005, 02:15 AM

The Original London Cast Album or Highlights. Is where you can hear him. As the Phantom. Basically.

As it has been brought up, I have been reminded - Crawford's evil laugh. The only thing I like about him. It's perfect. I wish they'd had Gerry do an evil laugh in the movie. I missed the evil laugh at the end of AIAOY (reprise).

IamErik771

05-14-2005, 06:24 AM

I adore MC's voice. In fact, he's probably my favorite Phantom voice-wise, and I would have loved to see him perform the role. I've also listened to some clips of him performing live, and believe me, the OLC cast recordings don't do him justice at all. If anything, he was holding back a lot when he recorded the soundtrack. He puts a hundred times more emotion into his voice when he performs it live, as so many actors do.

I agree with Molli about Mike's evil laugh. Gerry should have gotten at least a few scenes to do it, even if it wasn't after the AIAOY reprise. Perhaps he could have done it:
- After he made Carlotta croak
- After he killed Buquet
- When Raoul was in the room of mirrors (aka the torture chamber)
- Final Lair Scene; slight chuckle right before "Monsieur, I bid you welcome..." :tp2:

The Phantom

05-15-2005, 08:22 AM

The thing I've heard most people say about Michael Crawford's voice is that he sounds girlish and has a high voice. That may be so, but he's most connected as the first Phantom of the Opera. There was that rock singer, but then he never made it to the Broadway stage. :)

cinty

05-17-2005, 04:43 AM

Originally posted by The Phantom
The thing I've heard most people say about Michael Crawford's voice is that he sounds girlish and has a high voice. That may be so, but he's most connected as the first Phantom of the Opera. There was that rock singer, but then he never made it to the Broadway stage. :)
They probably say that because they are jealous of his incredible voice range. I think his voice is soooo incredible, the way he can sing both high and low and still sound mazing!!! I lllooooovvveee Michale's evil laugh, it's absolutely awesome. Gosh, he just was the most incredible Erik ever. I love having a thread devoted solely to that fantastic bloke!

IamErik771

05-21-2005, 04:16 AM

I know what you mean, Jacinta. God, if only I could sing like that... His voice is simply amazing. I haven't seen any of his films, though. I'm interested in seeing Hello, Dolly!, as I liked the stage version. Am I correct in thinking that Mikey played Cornelius in that version?

cinty

05-21-2005, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by IamErik771
I know what you mean, Jacinta. God, if only I could sing like that... His voice is simply amazing. I haven't seen any of his films, though. I'm interested in seeing Hello, Dolly!, as I liked the stage version. Am I correct in thinking that Mikey played Cornelius in that version?
My gosh, he's an absolute DON'T MISS in Helly Dolly! I have lived that show for years, both stage and movie, but he is absolutely fantastic as Cornelius. That man has a knack for comedy. I love that line.. "we won't come home until we've each kissed a girl!" and they way he says "I'm 29 and three quarters. I've got to start sometime!" Lol. Cornelius is totally my fave character from that show, and Mikey (good name!) is sooooo awesome. You'll have to watch it.
I konw.. if I was a guy... I would totally do anything to sing like that!

Night feather

05-22-2005, 09:40 PM

Yes I get critizised for not liking Michael crawford as well, but I don't like his voice at all, and the same goes for Sarah Brightman. His voice lacks power and emotion, and hers lacks fullness.

Everyone praised them to the skies, so when I first listened to them I was liek, what! is that it! is that the famous michael crawford and sarah brightman?!

My favorite phantom is John Owen Jones, who were the one performing when I saw the musical on stage. His voice has the power, the danger amd the rich sound, and I simply love it.

But Gerard Butler is also very good, he (to quote patrick wilson) brought such humanity to the phantom. His vocie is also fantastic, it's very sensual and passionate, I thought he did a great job, but John OJ is my favorite.

Does anyone have any sound recordings with him singing as the phantom? Because I can't seem to find any.

Countess Cain

05-22-2005, 11:28 PM

As many of you have, I've only heard his voice on the special edition DVD. I didn't really mind it, but it did seem a bit... Strange, to me. I guess it's because I'm not used to it.

Does anyone have any sound recordings with him singing as the phantom? Because I can't seem to find any.

Maybe there's something on Amazon, with the original cast recording or something. They occasionally have decent clips...

EDIT: They do. You can hear like, a few seconds of him. D: I guess that's what you can expect from 30 seconds...

Amazon (Has 1986 Recording...) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00004YTY2/qid=1116808562/sr=8-4/ref=pd_csp_4/103-6683195-4724611?v=glance&s=music&n=507846)

Night feather

05-23-2005, 11:22 AM

Thank you for checking out, but actually it was John Owen Jones i meant and not Michael Crawford, btu thanks anyway.

Requiem

05-23-2005, 12:56 PM

*Sigh*

I can't for the life of me even begin to compare Michael with Gerard Butler. Gerard just is not the Phantom for me. And it would help if he could sing.

Because he really isn't anything great. Someone said that Michael doesn't have power behind his voice? What is that?? And what, Gerard Butler does?? Listen to him try to hold that note in All I Ask of You reprise, he doesn't make it more than a few seconds, I thought it was truly dismal. Then listen to Michael... now that is power.

In my opinion, Michael has a fantastic voice, he has depth, a great range, power, emotion, and he really brings a twisted psychoticness to the Phantom that Gerard couldn't even hint at. Michael had a presence, a scariness and allurance which I believe suited the Phantom. Gerry was sexy and good-looking I suppose, I'll give him that at least, but that's not how I picture the Phantom to be. I think of him as a dangerous and frightening Phantom, not some hot-bodied man-hunk.

So yeah, in short, I believe Gerard is nothing next to Michael, especially voice-wise. I can understand if you like Gerard Butler better, that's cool, but seriously, in terms of vocal talents, he just can't hold a candle to Michael.

cinty

05-24-2005, 04:58 AM

Originally posted by Requiem
*Sigh*

I can't for the life of me even begin to compare Michael with Gerard Butler. Gerard just is not the Phantom for me. And it would help if he could sing.

Because he really isn't anything great. Someone said that Michael doesn't have power behind his voice? What is that?? And what, Gerard Butler does?? Listen to him try to hold that note in All I Ask of You reprise, he doesn't make it more than a few seconds, I thought it was truly dismal. Then listen to Michael... now that is power.

In my opinion, Michael has a fantastic voice, he has depth, a great range, power, emotion, and he really brings a twisted psychoticness to the Phantom that Gerard couldn't even hint at. Michael had a presence, a scariness and allurance which I believe suited the Phantom. Gerry was sexy and good-looking I suppose, I'll give him that at least, but that's not how I picture the Phantom to be. I think of him as a dangerous and frightening Phantom, not some hot-bodied man-hunk.

So yeah, in short, I believe Gerard is nothing next to Michael, especially voice-wise. I can understand if you like Gerard Butler better, that's cool, but seriously, in terms of vocal talents, he just can't hold a candle to Michael.
Millinos of hugs to you Requiem!! I'm sooooo glad I'm not alone. So many people seem to think he alcks emotion. All I can hear is sooo much emotion, I cry. His "christin.. christine" at the All I Ask Of You reprise is truly heartrending. My friend listened to the OLC before she saw the movie or was even familiar with the storyline. Seh commented to me about how fantastically full fo emotion his voice was there,and indeed, everywhere. And you are certainly right about Michael being able to hold notes better than Gerad. His All I ask of You reprise, as you pointed out, and at the end... his "You alone can make my song take flight... It's over now, themusic of the night!!" he holds that night for ages, it's sooo heartrending. Gerard just says night and finishes.. Michael Goes "NIIIIGGGGHHHHHHHHHTTTTTTTTTTT" and it's so full of raw emotion and broken heart and feeling that I just want to love him and hold him and live with a guy who can sing like that!! No offence to Gerard, but his looks are waht turn me on. NOT HIS VOICE. and the reason why I love Michael Crawford so much is because I LOVE his voice, not his looks. Everythign he sings, has so much more feeling and sounds so much more angelic than Butler could even dream of.
oh well, just having my rant. :)

Countess Cain

06-11-2005, 09:41 PM

Now that I have the OLC CD, I can now officially say I adore his voice. It's really powerful, with both emotion, and audibleness. As far as voices go, he, in my opinion, is more like an 'Angel of Music' than Gerard Butler is. (If you all get what I mean. XD)

cinty

06-16-2005, 07:47 AM

IamErik771

06-18-2005, 03:31 AM

Ooh, what was this CD called? I think I might want to get it.

And I know what you mean about Mikey sounding more like an "angel of music." After hearing the OLC CDs and reading the novel, I feel that his voice would be ideal for a Leroux-based phantom as well. My only problem with his performance is Point of No Return and the final scenes, because he kinda loses the emotion that made him so great in the other songs. However, he probably is much more emotional when actually performing on stage. :mask:

cinty

06-20-2005, 02:01 AM

Originally posted by IamErik771
Ooh, what was this CD called? I think I might want to get it.

And I know what you mean about Mikey sounding more like an "angel of music." After hearing the OLC CDs and reading the novel, I feel that his voice would be ideal for a Leroux-based phantom as well. My only problem with his performance is Point of No Return and the final scenes, because he kinda loses the emotion that made him so great in the other songs. However, he probably is much more emotional when actually performing on stage. :mask:
The cd was "Michael Crawford with the London Symphony Orchestra" and it's superb.
Oh, I think Mike sings "Point of No Return" and "Down Once More" with just as much emotion, if not more, than Gerry. When he sings "Christine, Christine.. why? Why?" It's just soooo touching! and when he sings "It's Over now the music of the night", I positively bawl my eyes out. :(
wonderful, wonderful stuff!

composer15

07-13-2005, 06:44 AM

Although I was too young to have seen Micheal Crawford live, I believe he portrayed the Phantom the best :D His voice is unbelievable and the way he shows his obsession for Christine is remarkable. I only wish that I could have been born sooner so I could have seen him on Broadway :( Oh well, Gerard Butler did a fantastic job as the Phantom though, his voice is a wonder. I always get chills when ever I watch the movie.

Much Love :mask:

cinty

07-22-2005, 01:34 PM

Micheal Crawford always awes me with the power and obsessiveness of his voice. Although by now I have heard many many wonderful phantoms (not seen any except Gerard but I collect Phantom songs from everywhere) MC will always be my Angel of Music. I never fail to be floored by him. Apparently his last performance in Los Angelas was so emotional and amazing, much much better than anything you could hear on the OLC soundtrack. Boy, do I wish I could have seen it!!!

Phantomgirl05

07-29-2005, 10:39 PM

Michael Crawford has got a terrific voice. I like both his and Gerard Butler's voice, because they are both different. I actually think though, that Gerard has a more Phantom-like voice, deep and angsty, if you get my drift. But I like both of theirs. It's hard to decide which voice I like more in general.

The_Persian

07-30-2005, 10:45 PM

I am a huge Micheal Crawford fan! He is the first phantom I ever heard, and he will probably always be my favorite. I wish that i had had the chance to see him preform on stage! ::sighs::

Reza Khan

08-01-2005, 05:09 AM

I would like to pose a question to those that have the entire soundtrack featuring MC:

I have recently downloaded (yes, illegally too. :D) MC and SB's "Phantom of the Opera." As compared to the rest of the songs, where would you place it? The best, the worse, or somewhere in the middle? After knowing this, I can truly pass judgement.

IamErik771

08-01-2005, 05:55 PM

I don't know; all the songs are pretty fantastic in my opinion. TPOTO (song) gives you a very good idea of their range, and of the power Michael can put into his voice. I definitely recommend buying the full cast recording; nothing I can type could possibly do justice to their amazing performances. (Unless you didn't like their voices; I respect your opinion if that is so.) :)

Reza Khan

08-01-2005, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by IamErik771
(Unless you didn't like their voices; I respect your opinion if that is so.) :)
I don't really, and if that's as good as it gets, I don't know if I ever will. I've tried to like them, as eveyone seems to have them as favorites, but I still can't see what's so great about either. I respect that you like them, and I thank you for respecting that I don't like them. :)

cinty

08-08-2005, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by Misconception
I would like to pose a question to those that have the entire soundtrack featuring MC:

I have recently downloaded (yes, illegally too. :D) MC and SB's "Phantom of the Opera." As compared to the rest of the songs, where would you place it? The best, the worse, or somewhere in the middle? After knowing this, I can truly pass judgement.
The song shows off Sarah's superb voice on the high notes. She sings that top E with far more power than any other Christine I have ever heard. The way Michael Crawford says "sing my angel of music" sounds much more like the teacher/pupil relationship they have- as she goes higher and higher, sounding better all the time, his voice commanding her to sing gets more passionate and shouting as he drinks in his delight at hearing her voice and wants to test his pupil to see just how far she will go. Gerard just croaks out "sing my angel of music" over and over again and puts no meaning into it.
Also, you shoulld hear Michael singing his "All I Ask of You" reprise, his "all i ask of you" to christine after PoNR, his "you alone can make my song take flight, it's over now the music of the night". I haven't listened to Gerard with any tolerance after hearing Michael singing. The Mirror also hightlights their excellent voices, with Sarah's Angel of Music absolutely ecstatic with joy and wonder and Michaels' "I am There Inside" incredibly powerful.
I do not have the cd of Michaels' last performance in Las Vegas but someone told me that it is tragic that so many people think MC is emotionless after listening to the OLC. The OLC was recorded just as the show was beginning. After 5 years of playing the role, Michael was so wonderful at it that this girl, who has seen many, many phantoms, says there has basically been no equal since.
Also, with no Sarah Brightman, there would be no Phantom of the Opera. and when I listen to her sing, not just on Phantom, but on her other cds as well, I hear just exactly why Andrew loved her voice so much and was inspired to write a role specifically for her.
Boy I am such a HARD OLC PHAN! LOL!:tongue:

The_Persian

08-23-2005, 02:04 PM

I think MC does a fantastic job on the parts in POTO where he has to show a lot of emotion. for example : "You alone can make my song take flight... It's over now the music of the niiiiiiight!" "Masquerade, paper faces on parade, Masquarade... Hide your face so the world will never find you. Christine I love you." "I gave you my music, made your song take wing. And now, how you've repaid me, denied me and betrayed me...."
Parts like that.... he always manages to make me cry.

cinty

08-25-2005, 07:50 AM

Ooohhh my!!! People who think Michael Crawford lacks emotion really ought to eat their words after what I've heard. Michael Crawford's final performance, Final Lair. I have heard many, many final lairs now and NONE can measure up to this one. It makes the OLC soundtrack's final lair sound tame and stale. It's AMAZING. After "Christine I love you", he doesn't stop there. He says "I love you. I love you. I LOVE YOU!!!!!!" and it's totally gut wrenching. And as he sings "you alone can make my song take flight", he is sobbing. Absolutely incredible!!!!

The_Persian

08-25-2005, 05:22 PM

Oooohhh... I have never heard that preformance!! Can you get the suoundtrack for it?? Or is there anyway you could send it to me??

I think someone should start a thread "OLC fans Unite"! :D

operafreak84

08-25-2005, 09:18 PM

OK, everyone, this is not meant to be condenscending in any way. Many people make this mistake and I don't hold it against you, but it's annoying. Everyone who is calling the OLC a soundtrack, please look at my sig.

Now that I've got that out of my system, I'm going to answer The Persian's question. There is no official recording for MC's final performance. I doubt that Really Useful Group is even aware that it was recorded at all.;)

cinty

08-26-2005, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by operafreak84
OK, everyone, this is not meant to be condenscending in any way. Many people make this mistake and I don't hold it against you, but it's annoying. Everyone who is calling the OLC a soundtrack, please look at my sig.

Now that I've got that out of my system, I'm going to answer The Persian's question. There is no official recording for MC's final performance. I doubt that Really Useful Group is even aware that it was recorded at all.;)
Oh, I get you. *goes quiet and wishes she hadn't brought it up*

operafreak84

08-26-2005, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by cinty
Oh, I get you. *goes quiet and wishes she hadn't brought it up*
Yep, RUG is pretty ignorant. Their "no recording devices of any kind are allowed" speech at the beginning of every show is rather amusing. I've never recorded a show myself, but everytime I go, I wonder how many people around me are doing it at that very moment.:rolleyes: Can't say it upsets me.:D

cinty

08-26-2005, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by operafreak84
Yep, RUG is pretty ignorant. Their "no recording devices of any kind are allowed" speech at the beginning of every show is rather amusing. I've never recorded a show myself, but everytime I go, I wonder how many people around me are doing it at that very moment.:rolleyes: Can't say it upsets me.:D
Lol!!! That is an interesting idea.. O_o... but seriously, RUG are really annoying when it comes to all that stuff.:rolleyes:

IamErik771

08-30-2005, 05:44 AM

Originally posted by Misconception
I don't really, and if that's as good as it gets, I don't know if I ever will. I've tried to like them, as eveyone seems to have them as favorites, but I still can't see what's so great about either. I respect that you like them, and I thank you for respecting that I don't like them. :)
I wouldn't say TPOTO is their "best" song on the recording. In my opinion, Michael sounds best on MOTN, the AIAOY Repise (I think he has the best "evil laugh" - :D), Wandering Child, and on most of the Final Lair. Sarah's best songs (I think) are TOM, POTO, and WYWSHA. :)

The_Persian

08-30-2005, 03:28 PM

I agree with you, James....
I LOVE how MC sounds in Wandering Child... so inticing and innocent.... ::sighs:: and I love his evil laugh too! I also love how he does the AIAOY reprise after PONR... it makes me cry everytime!

Angel_Of_Music0_G

10-07-2005, 08:13 PM

I think Micheal Crawford is okay.I own the soundtrack with Sarah Brightman and she is very good.But Micheal Crawford I find his voice kinda dull but in some parts he can be quite amazing So it depends on what hes singing I never saw the show (I wasnt born then) But I do own the piano music to it and right now Im learnign how to play "Wishing you were some how here again" and its going quite well!
Angel_of_MusicO_G

operafreak84

10-07-2005, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by Angel_Of_Music0_G
I think Micheal Crawford is okay.I own the soundtrack with Sarah Brightman and she is very good.But Micheal Crawford I find his voice kinda dull but in some parts he can be quite amazing So it depends on what hes singing I never saw the show (I wasnt born then) But I do own the piano music to it and right now Im learnign how to play "Wishing you were some how here again" and its going quite well!
Angel_of_MusicO_G

First of all - PLEASE stop calling it a soundtrack.

Second of all - a cast recording has little to no emotion. I agree he sounds dull on the recording. Live? Now that's a different story.

Third of all - I'm sure you know the show's still playing, so "I wasn't born then" doesn't make a lot of sense. If it ever comes near you, go see it! You'll love it, I promise.:D

Ms Christine Daae

10-15-2005, 05:10 AM

He IS Erik to me. Hands down. He is amazing in the role and deserves every one of all the awards he won for playing the role.

A perfect match of actor/role :)

sunshine

11-22-2005, 12:08 AM

I cant explain how wonderful Michael is he is Erik in all aspects to me. His voice is so above and beyond. If you had to think of the Angel of Music I could think of non other than Michael....his voice like I have sated before is completly mesmerizing. Michael is absolutly perfect and mindblowing. Sorry I am a hard core Michael Crawford fan....he is the PHANTOM :D

The Phantom

12-30-2005, 07:03 AM

On Christmas Eve, I had the treat of hearing one of Michael CrawfordÂ’s of a very popular Christmas hymn called O Holy Night. My family had a Christmas satellite music station playing, and it came on! I was really shocked and impressed. The whole time I kept thinking that Erik was singing it, since he sings in that high pitched nasal accent that Michael used when he was performing as The Phantom. He has a Christmas CD, so it has made me want to go out and try to find it. :)

Erik

12-31-2005, 06:12 PM

Michael Crawford has a Christmas CD? Hmmm. Now I'm going to be driven mad finding it. Thanks a lot Steve. Haha. Just kidding.

I've heard Michael Crawford playing Carol of the Bells on the piano before. It was so pretty, and I'm actually downloading it as I type.

dragonrider23

06-19-2006, 11:15 PM

I have Seen Michael when I was 13, in 1988, when he brought the Phantom to broadway in the city. On the ORLCR, the reason why there is no emotion or lack there of is because it is a recording.

If you weren't born yet, you have no room to comment.
You want to know what Michael Crawford is all about?

Go to a concert and get a clue.:mask:

eriks_protege

06-30-2006, 05:35 AM

I'm married to Michael Crawford. He's MINE, I TELL YOU, MINE!!!

I mean, the man is sexyyyyy.

His voice makes him extremely attractive. And, voice-wise, he IS Erik. The man is a God. Or should I say angel?

Although I wouldn't say no to Hugh Panaro, either.

AAW0487

06-30-2006, 05:38 AM

I would really like to see Michael Crawford! I hear about him all the time from random people, and he sounds wonderful! Sadly I have not been able to see or hear any of his work. I need to see the DVD he's in! And I need to see Sarah Brightman as well! *wanders off to amazon to find DVD*

lisalawless

07-07-2006, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by cinty
I never got to see him perform either, as, like everyon else, I was too young. I've never seen Phantom on stage at all actually.
But... I absolute LOVE Michael Crawford. His voice, to me is the Angel of Music. He can sound Angelic and beautiful (Music of the Night) heartbroken (all I ask of you reprise and the end of Down Once More) Seductive and entrancing (Point of NO Return) forceful (most of Down Once More and end of All i ask of you Reprise) and every other emotion that embodies the character of Erik. I think he LOOKS like Erik would look. He is older, like Erik was. I think he was absolutely the best Phantom ever.
I have also been a Michael Crawford fan for years, from the musical "hello Dolly" and playing Frank Spencer in "Some Mothers do Have em". I think he is soooo talented. His singing voice is utterly superb.
I wish I could have seen him perform. When I saw him and Sarah Brightman singing Music of the Night on my dvd, I practically jumped over the moon!

I agree I LOVE MIchael Crawford he is amazing, such a great voice with such dept and warmth to it. I always makes me cry when I hear him sing the all I ask of you reprise he sounds so sad but then her sound so mad in the final scene.

Chance_or_Destiny

07-14-2006, 02:24 AM

Okay, so i may be beaten to a fine pulp for this, but I'n not a huge Michale Crawford fan. If you give me a choice between him an Gerry, its Gerry all the way. Granted I've never seen the guy perform live before, but the cast recording does absoutly nothing for me. The high nasaly thing just doesnt send the chills down my spine like movie version. Sorry if i hurt anyones feelings and i know its just my opnion, but this tread isn't titled Crawford lovers only so i thought a different view could be interesting.

ForbiddenRomance

07-14-2006, 06:02 AM

Originally posted by sing_for_me
Unfortunately, and I get bashed a lot by this from phans, I do not like Michael Crawford in any way, shape, or form. Obviously I would never have gotten to see him, because I hadn't been born yet either, but I really do not like his voice.

I'm not sure I can really pinpoint exactly. For one thing, I hear absolutely no emotion in his voice, and I feel that emotion is a necessary thing for anyone playing the Phantom. And I think I just don't like how his voice sounds.

I don't know...

I agree with every thing you said... I was just listening to him on the Showtunes channel..on my computer and I didn't like his voice at all..I mean it was nice but...nothing special ion my opinion...like you said no emotion.

phantomfanatic

07-19-2006, 04:36 PM

Michael is my favourite Phantom without a doubt!! I remember, my dad had just downloaded the 'Phantom of the Opera' song (this was before I had ever heard anything about the musical) and he said to me, "Guess who that is singing?" I didn't know and said so. Then he said, "It's Frank Spencer!" And then I went "FRANK SPENCER?? NO WAY!!" This just shows what a wonderful and versatile actor he is that he could go from playing Frank in 'Some mothers do 'av 'em' to performing as the Phantom. A truly inspirational person! His version of 'Music of the Night' just floors me everytime. I think that ever since his performance, other Phantom's have been judged against him and although there have been some good ones, Michael, I think, everyone just holds a place in their heart for in that role. My only regret is that I wasn't alive to see a performance of his:( I'm so jealous of all of you who did have that amazing opportunity!

lisalawless

07-27-2006, 09:58 AM

I have a Christmas album with Micheal Crawford and he is wonderful with a sweet yet powerful voice

christina xanthaky

09-19-2006, 08:30 PM

You guys are right about Gerry not being able to hold a long note. It is easy to sing high and loud but try doing it low and soft for Music of the Night. 20 years later at concerts that Michael performs, he is still doing it. Gerry only had to do it for the movie and that was it. Michael did it for 1,300 performances and all of his concert tours as well.
I saw the interviews from the Phantom gala and the present Raul o Broadway even growled when he was asked about the movie and hesaid that the only good thing that came out of the movie was the people that don't live in an area where the show is performed or for the people that can't afford to go see a musical, it got a lot of peaple out to see it. Other then that he and all the other cast members of Phantom on broadway thinks that the movie sucks, and even Gerry said that Michael is " THE MAN" and he like s Michael a lot.

Huggies,

Christina

Pyromaniac

09-20-2006, 02:43 AM

I definatly love MC as the phantom's voice. I see where at times you can't really feel him get into character, but to me those times are few.

I only knew of the phantom as MC and anyone who tried to be the phantom after really didn't do much for me. I guess I just got so used to hearing him sing, I love his voice it is so melodious.

twisted fantasies

10-29-2006, 04:59 AM

Michael Crawford is a legend. He plays the phantom the way it should be played. I loved him from the moment I ever saw him perform. He is very humble, and was always striving to become better, when really he was already the best. He knew his character, and loved playing him. I can't really say much more. And I shouldn't have to. ANd those of you who also like him know where i'm coming from.

There are generally three reasons why some people dont like Michael Crawford. First, They've never seen him. Second, they prefer phantoms who always sing in an extremely lower range. And Third, they have horrible taste in music and dont know anything about broadway.

For those of you who think he has no passion, do you have eyes and ears? Or are you really that clueless? Crawford has a thing called talent and detail. How many other phantoms do you know of that actually tremble and shake when Christine kissed him? Or who cry out in agony and cover their ears during the All I ask of you reprise?(not to mention that AWESOME signature mad evil laugh) Or have won over 15 awards recognizing their talent? Gerry fans, tell me what you feel in the end? feel bad for the guy? thats it. In Michael Crawford's version, you are IN TEARS.

And for those of you who prefer Gerry over Michael. Jesus god. someone get me a glass of water. So you think Gerry sings better than Crawford? well lets look at some things:

Gerry vs. Crawford (and Gerry is computerized so its really not even fair) based on the soundtracks.

in the "All I ask of you" (reprise), Gerry held the last note for 7 seconds. Crawford held it for 15.

in the final note in "Its over now the music of the night", Gerry held it for a pathetic 3 and a half seconds vs. Michael's 9 seconds.

Do I really have to go on? Some one please tell me there are more than a bunch of 14 year olds in here who have only seen the pretty hollywood version.

IamErik771

10-31-2006, 04:31 PM

Hey, there.

I appreciate the fact that you feel the need to stand up for Mike (I personally worship the man and his superb portrayal of Erik), but that's no excuse to flame those who disagree with you. People are always going to have differing opinions, and we all need to be able to accept that.

In future posts, I recommend that you make an effort to calm down before typing a post on an issue you feel passionately about so that you can use a less confrontational tone, and rely more on logic and balanced comparisons than on insulting those who have differing opinions, however wrong you believe they are.

twisted fantasies

11-12-2006, 12:16 AM

Hi there.

You can't tell me HOW to state my opinion. I can post in any tone I want to thank you. I'll try not to attack anyone..but im still going to say what i have to say.

Lord Moe

04-12-2007, 10:48 PM

Here are my thoughts on Michael Crawford.

My first true experience with POTO is when I used to go over my friend's house and listen to his Original Toronto cast CD with Colm Wilkinson as the Phantom. I loved it, and I loved Colm as the phantom. I thought he brought such power to the role. I heard Michael Crawford's "Music of the Night" and thought that he sounded kind of girly. Now that is only because he has a higher, thinner voice than Colm Wilkinson. I criticized Crawford for not having the power necessary for the Phantom and listed Colm as my favorite Phantom.

A couple of weeks ago I was wondering "what makes everyone love Michael Crawford so much? My mom loves him, my friend's dad said he was amazing, and everyone else I hear from says he is the definitive phantom." So I got my hands on the 2 Disk "Original London Cast" CD and listened to it from beginning to end in one session. I was hooked. I finally realized why everyone loves Michael Crawford.

Michael Crawford is not girly. It is on the thinner side, when he can make it sound very full when he wants it to. The problem with Colm is that he plays the Phantom too powerfully. The phantom is more than just power. Colm's phantom had no tenderness, and I couldn't feel bad for him in the end, which you should be able to do. Michael Crawford's phantom made me cry (and that's from just hearing his voice). And if you read the original novel by Gaston Leroux, you see even more how Michael Crawford's portrayal of the Phantom is accurate. At times his voice is as powerful as thunder, and at other times as soft as that of an angel. He really played the "Angel of Music". Plus, the phantom is kind of a pathetic character. In the book he practically grovels at Christine's feet at times, and I can't see Colm's phantom doing that. I could feel for Crawford's phantom. He could be powerful, seductive, very hypnotic, tender, and saddening. He truly is the definitive Phantom.

On another note, his vocals are amazing. His range is awesome and reaches the high notes with such ease. He could hit those high notes powerfully, and when needed he could hit them softly but with certain strength.

/novel :)

Azure Serenity

04-25-2007, 05:36 PM

Michael Crawford was by far my most favorite Phantom. His voice just seemed to fit right with my ears. It was seductive, sneaky, and not overpowering, which is the Phantom's character. In the CDs I have of him as the Phantom, I was completely blown away, and I could only imagine how epic it was on stage. I actually wish that I had a chance to see him play as the Phantom as opposed to the guy I saw on broadway last year, who wasn't exactly that great. He didn't suck, but Crawford would have stormed him pretty easily.

Michael Crawford is not girly. It is on the thinner side, when he can make it sound very full when he wants it to. The problem with Colm is that he plays the Phantom too powerfully. The phantom is more than just power. Colm's phantom had no tenderness, and I couldn't feel bad for him in the end, which you should be able to do. Michael Crawford's phantom made me cry (and that's from just hearing his voice). And if you read the original novel by Gaston Leroux, you see even more how Michael Crawford's portrayal of the Phantom is accurate. At times his voice is as powerful as thunder, and at other times as soft as that of an angel. He really played the "Angel of Music". Plus, the phantom is kind of a pathetic character. In the book he practically grovels at Christine's feet at times, and I can't see Colm's phantom doing that. I could feel for Crawford's phantom. He could be powerful, seductive, very hypnotic, tender, and saddening. He truly is the definitive Phantom.

Sums it up beautifully for me, along with the fact that he has an insane range for his vocals.

Operagrrl

04-25-2007, 10:05 PM

Michael Crawford?!:eek: (insert Wayne and Garth's "We're not worthy" scene)

I love him, Phantom or otherwise. He's got a great range and control over his voice. I've only seen him in "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum" and heard the POTO soundtrack, but, in my opinion, he is the ultimate Phantom!

Of course, this is coming from a crazed fan.:D

phantomtigger

05-18-2007, 05:45 PM

I just bought a Michael Crawford soundtrack today! It's got no PHantom music on it.. it's got some stuff from West Side Story, Memory from Cats, when YOu Wish Upon A Star, If I loved you, and many other gems. It's a wonderful cd, and he sounds superb! It's really really awesome, Im' so glad I bought it. He sings one of the best performances of "Memory" I have ever heard. Really, really wonderful. and it was really cheap too! Great bargain!!!
And he does a fantastic rendition of "Somehwhere".

This CD is actually called "Michael Crawford...Songs from the Stage and Screen." I used to have this before I lost it. I loved it!!

There are very few things I dislike about the OLCR. But, those comarisons were made after hearing the OCCR highlights. One of the few things I dislike is that Michael sings nearly every note.

Each Phantom that I've heard....Michael Crawford, Colm Wilkinson, and Gerard Butler, has some quality that I like. Each person brings their own flair to the performance. So....on that note, I'm not really going to bash anyone for what they like or dislike.

Oh, and Michael holds the note at the end of MOTN for like 20 seconds.

Satine

03-21-2008, 09:06 PM

Michael Crawford is the best Phantom I ever heard, he's got such powerful, amazing, strong and still so fragile voice! Erik must sounds like him. And his evil laugh! He is the one and only stage Phantom for me. What a pity I never got a chance to see him in POTO, I know him only from CDs and movies. Phantom, yes...but I adore his version of "All I ask of you" too, far more than any other Raoul's ;) He is the great artist, indeed.

xXphantomaddictedXx

03-30-2008, 12:46 AM

Oh, wow. I can't believe I didn't see this topic before! *smacks head in disbelief*

Anyway...when I went to Las Vegas, I bought a POTO CD thinking it was a cast recording from the show I'd just seen...boy, was I wrong! I, too, own the "Highlights from The Phantom of the Opera" CD with Michael Crawford as the Phantom. I love Michael Crawford - to the point where I'm getting obsessive over him. It's really a shame I'll never be able to see a version of Phantom with him in it, because I love him so much. To me, Michael Crawford is the Phantom, not Gerard Butler. He just has such a voice - and he can make it whatever he wants it to be - loving, seductive, evil, you name it. :mask:

IamErik771

05-27-2008, 02:50 PM

I finally "re-discovered" two really awesome TV interviews with Mike that beautifully illustrate his take on the role. They're both on YouTube, and feature clips of him singing MOTN (and certain other scenes) while in costume!

On "Entertainment Tonight" in 1988, (http://youtube.com/watch?v=nJnUfu7Zn-Q) right after his performance in POTO earned him the Tony Award for Best Actor in a Musical.

On "Sunday Morning," (http://youtube.com/watch?v=xpvffEbMXZk) before MC appeared on the Bob Hope Show. This was back when he was performing in the Los Angeles production of POTO in the early 1990s -- not sure exactly when this interview took place. It's the one I mentioned here (http://www.phantoms-opera.com/showthread.php?p=91985#post91985), with the comparison he made between how Erik was treated and the rejection that children suffering from AIDS often faced.

Enjoy the clips! Personally, these made me appreciate his portrayal even more, which is saying something, considering how much I already loved his Phantom. :mask:

The Countess

05-27-2008, 08:36 PM

As much as I love MC, I always imagined Erik as more of a baritone voice. His tenor, as beautiful as it is, isn't harsh enough for a dark, musical genius. It's exactly what everyone's been saying. Soft, pleasant, nice to the ears. I just think that there needs to be more power in a lower register to give across the sinister part of the role. Most villians in operas are actually bartitones (not that Phantom's an opera).

Anyway, I do love MC though, more than Gerry at least. Have any of you heard him singing WYWSHA? I think it may be one youtube. All Mickey phans should have a listen.

MllePaula

05-27-2008, 11:58 PM

Have any of you heard him singing WYWSHA? I think it may be one youtube. All Mickey phans should have a listen.

He sang it when I saw him in concert. That and "Gethesemane" were the highlights of the show, even more than his MOTN.

I didn't know if I'd like hearing it sung by a man, but it was great.

My best friend was with me and he had tears streaming down his face during it because it reminded him of his father's death in a car accident when he was eight.

xXphantomaddictedXx

05-28-2008, 01:37 AM

My best friend was with me and he had tears streaming down his face during it because it reminded him of his father's death in a car accident when he was eight.

Wow... :eek:

Mikey Crawford really must be a god/angel, if he has the power to make tears stream down someone's face like that. He really is very talented...and he has such a voice! One note from him, and 1) I get extremely giddy, 2) my eyes close and I sigh dreamily, and 3) I get this weird look on my face like someone (maybe Mikey) is about to kiss my lips. Anyone know the look I'm talking about? ;)

maskedsinger

05-28-2008, 02:09 AM

xXphantomaddictedXx

05-28-2008, 02:41 AM

Micheal Crawford is one of the best Phantom's ever. There is just so much passion in there, with the fact that he has such an amazing voice. It is so unique and just wonderful.

Although I have never seen him perform, sadly, I have always wanted to. I have loved his voice and I've never seen him act, but I bet it is just as amazing. If I ever saw him perform my life would be so made.

That just about sums up how I feel. Of course, knowing myself, I would go on more of a rant than you did, but that isn't the point I'm trying to make. I'd love to see Mikey perform; if I did, I could die happy knowing that I'd at least seen him. Meeting him would always be a bonus, and I could die doubly happy if I actually got to meet Mikey - if I didn't faint from the shock of seeing him up close, that is! :p

tiannangel

05-28-2008, 10:49 AM

Agrres...

Even though I'm still a huge Gerry fan, I love Michael too!
I've always thought his voice was the only one for Phantom’s voice, and his acting and singing from what I could make out from really scratchy youtube clips are awesome!
I feel the same: I want to see Michael perform so desperately!

ChristineJ16

05-29-2008, 05:02 AM

IamErik771

05-29-2008, 08:12 AM

Have you seen the one interview he did on West 57th Street? I can't find that one on You Tube. I most likely have a copy of it somewhere on a VHS tape. It's really cool! Shows a lot of backstage stuff. :D

Ooh, wow! I've not seen that interview, but if you ever find it and are able to post it somewhere online, I'd love to check it out. I'm a sucker for backstage footage. :D

MllePaula

05-29-2008, 12:31 PM

Ooh, wow! I've not seen that interview, but if you ever find it and are able to post it somewhere online, I'd love to check it out. I'm a sucker for backstage footage. :D

It used to be on-line, but I can't remember when or where I last saw it.

I do remember when that first aired. It was the same night as a big end-of-the-school-year party. I was furious and wanted to stay home to watch that...I'd have enjoyed it much more than second-rate chicken wings and an overly-chlorinated backyard swimming pool.

I set my VCR for it, of course. And, to my dismay, it didn't record.

It was years before I got to see it at all.

xXphantomaddictedXx

05-29-2008, 12:48 PM

It used to be on-line, but I can't remember when or where I last saw it.

I do remember when that first aired. It was the same night as a big end-of-the-school-year party. I was furious and wanted to stay home to watch that...I'd have enjoyed it much more than second-rate chicken wings and an overly-chlorinated backyard swimming pool.

I set my VCR for it, of course. And, to my dismay, it didn't record.

It was years before I got to see it at all.

Ohhh...I feel your pain...I would have felt the same way. On a happier note, exactly where can I see this interview? Would it be on YouTube? If so, what would I search under? Thanks. :D

ChristineJ16

05-30-2008, 02:39 AM

Ooh, wow! I've not seen that interview, but if you ever find it and are able to post it somewhere online, I'd love to check it out. I'm a sucker for backstage footage. :D

I had the day off today (finally after working so much since last week, ugh!) and decided to look thru some boxes of old VHS tapes to see if I could find it. Yup, lo and behold I found it and watched it. The quality is not of the best, but still clear enough to see all that's going on. It's very cool! Hal Prince is also on the interview, talking about Michael as well. It's just awesome to hear Michael talk so passionately about the character. I love how much he got into it! The back-stage stuff of course was such a treat. He comes down the stairs, dressed in full costume. To see him lurking about back-stage while in costume is simply awesome! Yeah, somehow, someone has got to put a clear version of this on you tube. I have no idea how to go about in transferring the footage from the tape on to you tube.

ChristineJ16

05-30-2008, 05:38 PM

On "Sunday Morning," (http://youtube.com/watch?v=xpvffEbMXZk) before MC appeared on the Bob Hope Show. This was back when he was performing in the Los Angeles production of POTO in the early 1990s -- not sure exactly when this interview took place. It's the one I mentioned here (http://www.phantoms-opera.com/showthread.php?p=91985#post91985), with the comparison he made between how Erik was treated and the rejection that children suffering from AIDS often faced.

Did you know there's another Sunday Morning episode before this one? I found the other one also on the same tape that has the 57th interview. It features more of Hal Prince and some back-stage stuff. I'm trying to finding that other Sunday Morning and also the 20/20 one on you tube. The 20/20 one is also very cool as well!

xXphantomaddictedXx

05-30-2008, 10:22 PM

ChristineJ16

05-30-2008, 10:31 PM

I will definitely have to look up this interview. What year did it premiere?

I'm guessing 1988 because it shows rehearsals for the Broadway production. It's when Michael, Sarah and Steve all opened on Broadway. The 2nd one of Sunday Morning is when Michael was already in LA so that one was either 1990 or 1991.

xXphantomaddictedXx

06-01-2008, 02:26 AM

I'm guessing 1988 because it shows rehearsals for the Broadway production. It's when Michael, Sarah and Steve all opened on Broadway. The 2nd one of Sunday Morning is when Michael was already in LA so that one was either 1990 or 1991.

Okay, thanks. :D

So...has anyone met Michael? Because I have been doing a lot of thinking about Michael (probably thinking about him more than I should be) and one of the thoughts I had was that it might be cool to actually meet him. However, knowing myself and how obsessed I am with him, I might do one of three things were I given the chance to meet him. I might, 1) be very shy and not be able to say a thing to him, 2) be very hyper and spazzy and drive him insane by gushing over him, or 3) try to grab him, kiss him, hug him, or touch him in some other way that I am not thinking of. So you can see why meeting him would be kind of a challenge for me.

*sighs sadly*

ChristineJ16

06-01-2008, 06:13 AM

So...has anyone met Michael? Because I have been doing a lot of thinking about Michael (probably thinking about him more than I should be) and one of the thoughts I had was that it might be cool to actually meet him. However, knowing myself and how obsessed I am with him, I might do one of three things were I given the chance to meet him. I might, 1) be very shy and not be able to say a thing to him, 2) be very hyper and spazzy and drive him insane by gushing over him, or 3) try to grab him, kiss him, hug him, or touch him in some other way that I am not thinking of. So you can see why meeting him would be kind of a challenge for me.

*sighs sadly*

The only time I even came close was backstage after his Music of ALW concert down in San Diego many years ago. I saw him peek his head out the door. He saw me, I saw him and we both smiled. He looked nervous to come out because of all the fans waiting for him. He then quickly came out, they rushed him into the car and that was it. I also got letters from him when I was part of his fan club. My guyfriend on the other hand met him numerous times and loves to rub it in any chance he gets. *groans* :mad: He worked as a DJ for a LA radio station, so he got tickets to the show, got to the meet the LA cast, even had some of the actors appear at the station and so on. This was all before I knew him, I met him about 2 years after all that. 2 years too late, ugh! But yeah, he met Michael a couple of times, had many things signed by him and said he's just a really nice guy. Someday I'd love to meet him too, would be nice. ;)

xXphantomaddictedXx

06-01-2008, 04:43 PM

Your guyfriend is so lucky! You have no idea how desperate I am for some kind of attention from Mikey.

*sighs*

Erik'sMusic92

07-24-2008, 04:22 PM

Your guyfriend is so lucky! You have no idea how desperate I am for some kind of attention from Mikey.

*sighs*

um, sarah. no offence, but ur siggy kinda scares me. but that's only cuz i'm a M.C. phan too!! the weird thing is that whenever i sing along to the OCR cd, and i sing M.C.'s parts; my voice matches his exact pitch!! my voice also matches G.B.'s exact pitch,too.:mask:

Bricabrac

07-27-2008, 10:01 PM

Did you know there's another Sunday Morning episode before this one? I found the other one also on the same tape that has the 57th interview. It features more of Hal Prince and some back-stage stuff. I'm trying to finding that other Sunday Morning and also the 20/20 one on you tube. The 20/20 one is also very cool as well!

Here is a video of the West 57 th show. The quality isn't as good as it would be on youtube. It's on the old Phantom Movie Campaign site---bless them for leaving most of the site up even though the battle is long lost.

http://www.phantommovie.com/ra/west57th.html

Michael Crawford on Sunday Morning

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpvffEbMXZk

---And Phantom of the Opera--Behind the Scenes (Just before the NY opening)

This is the one in which Hal Prince (and Cameron Mackintosh) comment, and it has quite a bit of rehearsal footage.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=4343668

Enjoy! ;)

xXphantomaddictedXx

07-29-2008, 12:40 AM

Wow...lots of videos to check out. I will definitely do so - whenever I get around to it, that is! :p Of all the ones you posted, which is your favorite? Also, which one would you recommend I start with? Thanks. :D

angelgirl

08-06-2008, 09:03 PM

Like a lot of you, I was not born when Micheal Crawford was performing, but I have heard him on the OLC and he is really good!
A.G.

xXphantomaddictedXx

08-07-2008, 08:49 PM

Like a lot of you, I was not born when Micheal Crawford was performing, but I have heard him on the OLC and he is really good!
A.G.

"Really good" does not do him justice, angelgirl. You will have to try a bit harder if you are going to try to sum Michael Crawford up in a few words. Not to mention it is next to impossible to try and describe his accent in a few words. Honestly, I think Michael has to be a god of some sort, due to the fact that he is, simply put, perfect in almost every way. *swoons*

The Countess

01-03-2010, 02:03 PM

I admit it, I'm in l-l-l-l-l-love with Michael now. I just adore him. I saw a BBC documentary of the making of Phantom and he was interviewed. I suppose he's charmed me once again. Anybody want to see our child, Margot Scarlett Crawford?

http://i441.photobucket.com/albums/qq140/The_Countess_sings/baby.jpg

She has his forehead!

Eriks_phan

03-26-2010, 02:54 AM

xXphantomaddictedXx

09-20-2010, 03:52 PM

I've always adored Michael Crawford. I remember an interview he had done. He was talking about his original audition for POTO, and he thought he was going to be cast as Raoul! Much to his chagrin, he was cast as Erik. I do love how he sings the role. He does have a different kind of passion, and pulls it off differently that Gerard does. I'm in love with Gerik, but I adore Michael's Erik!

See, this is where you and I are going to differ. I'm in love with Michael's Erik and could care less about Gerik, but I digress. Point is, Michael is such a piece of work in so many ways that everyone is going to love some aspect of what he does. His vocals, for example, might not affect you the way they affect me. Or his hand gestures might affect you in ways that won't affect me. All I'm saying is that we're all different in who and what we choose to love, and if we weren't, it would be boring!