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The Phantom
05-31-2005, 04:01 AM
I never noticed this until someone pointed it out to me the other day, but when Christine is down at the small chapel lighting a candle in memorandum for her father there is a blooper. She lights the match from one candle to the left, then lights one on the right. When they zoom out... thereÂ’s only one candle lit! Has anyone else found any bloopers during the movie?

The Phantom
06-01-2005, 06:17 AM
Try to expand on your posts a little bit more so you won't borderline on spam, but none the less you brought up another blooper in the movie.

Christine passes out and is laid in the swan bed by Phantom, fully clothed, and by the time she wakes up and starts singing her stockings were gone again. I’m sure they mistakenly did that unless there are parts of the movie that they “hid” to purposely make us use our imagination.

There is of course the PhantomÂ’s mask. He looks normal with the mask on, and when itÂ’s ripped off the whole side of his face instantly becomes disfigured... when the parts showing under the mask looked normal to begin with. I guess with the heck Gerard went through with the makeup it was too difficult for him to wear the face appliances the whole time.

Opera Ghost
06-01-2005, 03:52 PM
Didn't notice the candle, but have noticed the stockings.

I noticed the same thing about the mask as what Steve said. The PONR mask does not cover the whole of his face (mainly the eyes) but the bare part of his face is normal looking. When the mask comes off, his skin is suddenly deformed on the side of the forehead.

In the cemetery scene you can see the rings of mist coming from the smoke machine.

The Phantom
06-03-2005, 12:02 AM
Someone explained to me about Meg's pants, and here it is. When she's going through the water she's supposedly wearing wading boots which go up her theighs. They would be rubber and be shiney looking when wet. The only answer I can think of is that she stood them off and had boots on beneath them.

Ataraxia
06-03-2005, 02:47 AM
Originally posted by Opera Ghost
In the cemetery scene you can see the rings of mist coming from the smoke machine.
Do you mean in the entire cemetary scene? Or is there one specific part? Because I haven't noticed this.

Then again, I haven't caught any bloopers as of yet.

Masked Shadows
06-03-2005, 02:50 AM
I watched the cemetary scene and I didn't see where the smoke machine is. Could sombody explain where?

The Khanum
06-03-2005, 02:53 AM
Also, during the Masquerade, before Christine starts to dance with Raoul, she's carrying a pretty little mask with a stick. In the next scene, she's holding Raoul's hand and the mask is nowhere to be found.

Maybe she hid it in her cleavage...just like the ring.

~Erik is my Hero

Ataraxia
06-03-2005, 07:58 AM
Hehehe, very good cleavage joke, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if she did find a way to hide it there. I hadn't really noticed that... Or maybe I had and it just didn't click. Either way, very good observation. Hopefully I can add one soon... :)

Opera Ghost
06-03-2005, 11:35 AM
You can see the smoke in the cemetary when Christine is at the foot of her father's tomb, sitting on the steps. Behind her, mist issues out onto the frozen pathway in rings.

kashmir
06-05-2005, 06:50 AM
I've noticed all these as well, except the smoke machine part. I'll have to watch it again for the smoke thing. The PONR/mask thing really irks me through the entire movie. But then again, he only looks like he was burned in a fire - no where near as disfigured as Leroux describes. Did anyone else find it odd how during the song POTO the candles just come right out of the water...? They're perfectly lit and they just came out of water. I just don't get it, lol.

Opera Ghost
06-09-2005, 01:30 PM
Yep, I've noticed the candles rising out of the water lit before. And you can tell that some (or all) aren't candles, but electric lights.

OG

The Khanum
06-09-2005, 02:12 PM
They aren't all electric...I saw a documentary on the making-of (not on the DVD), and they said they used the same trick that was used in...some other movie that I can't remember at the current moment. But I had thought that all of the candles were real...that's what they made it sound like in the documentary, at least.

~Erik is my Hero

Masked Shadows
06-09-2005, 08:17 PM
Yeah the PONR/mask bothers me too. It's sort of sad that the make-up in the musical is better (in a Leroux way) than the movie in which they could have used computers too.

s_ganninger
06-10-2005, 04:11 AM
before when christine and the phantom go through the mirror she has no eye make up on but in the tunnels she has grey eye make up on

Masked Shadows
06-10-2005, 04:50 AM
oh! and her hair is poofier!

Why So Silent
06-11-2005, 03:01 AM
It seemed kinda cheesy about the candles popping up out of the water in his cave, and I also always wondered about the portculis, because at the end of the movie he has to open it for Raoul, who opens it up for him when he first arrives with Christine?

The mask thing I guess was just because they didn't want to waste time putting on his makeup if he was just gonna wear a mask over it (even if it DOESN'T COVER ALL THE DEFORMITY PART UP!) and yes, Gerry looks like his face was pie-ed before he got on the set.
Toodles
Why So Silent

s_ganninger
06-11-2005, 03:18 PM
he may have a cave door opener

vergulde_draak
06-20-2005, 06:30 PM
I don't know if this is a blooper, but at the start when Raoul was riding/driving the horse carriage. I thought I saw a packet of potato chips on the seat of the carridge. I'm not sure if I saw wrongly, but it could be because my television screen quality is crap. I'd go get my dvd to check but it's downstair and I'm lazy to move. lol.

Claidissa
06-28-2005, 06:55 AM
When Raoul is trapped and drowning (YAY XD) in that trap that Erik so cleverly set up towards the end of the movie, there is a shot of the grate and there are bubbles...floating downward. The film is obviously reversed.

Luciana
06-28-2005, 07:55 AM
The mask problem really annoyed me too, and the first thing my sister said when we were watching the movie and she ripped off the mask was 'Is that All?'.

Where does Erik get the noose from that he kills Buquet with? I mean, I didn't notice him carrying any ropes while he was chasing him. (this might not be a blooper, but this is just an honest question that was nagging at me).

composer15
07-02-2005, 01:43 AM
I have noticed alot of mistakes in the movie but thats because I have seen it a million times. In music of the night there is a black strap on a statues head, its where the phantom is walking behind the candles. Anyways, the strap is big and then when theyre making their way to the swan bed it is skinny instead if thick. Another one is when they are in the lair at the end of the movie. When the phantom puts the wedding vail on Christines head... its on her head but when the phantom points to his face and says "an eternity of this before your eyes", its not on her head and then afterwards it is. There is also a stunt double for Christine when she rides the horse with Raoul out of the cemetary. But I never knew about the candle thing. Now I have to go check it out.

Much Love:mask:

phantoms_nemo
07-09-2005, 05:15 AM
Well some people said that in the scene "Why so Silent" the Phantoms belt moves around his waist. That is NOT true. I have watched the movie over 40 times and every time I watch this part, his belt buckle faces his right thigh.

masquerade_dancer
07-24-2005, 09:50 PM
When Christine is singing Think of Me that night at the opera, she doesn't hit the exact note when she sings "Trying too hard to put you from my mind". She like scoops really bad on "my". I don't know if you'd consider that a blooper but that's just always bothered me.

Wishing
07-25-2005, 12:56 AM
I just noticed this one not too long ago - After Carlotta croaks during Il Muto, Andre and Firman get on the stage. The lady in purple, and man in blue look through the curtain when they are standing there. After they grab Christine, then push her back in, they both come from the same direction as before and look through the curtain.

Opera Ghost
07-25-2005, 09:37 AM
Between "Little Lotte" and "The Phantom of the Opera" and "Music of the Night", Christine's hair style and eye shadow colour changes.

I'm gonna look for all these things later :D

MyNameIsFred315
08-02-2005, 05:48 PM
Ha, did anyone notice when Gerard and Emmy were in the Phantom's lair, and while he was singing 'Music of the Night', you could see the shadows of the cameras on their faces, and his back? It was when he walked in front of her.
Also-if you look very closely-right before Emmy takes the mask and the wig off of Gerard in PONR, you can see the hairline where the mask is...they didn't get it on very well or something. I noticed that in the theatre since the screen was huge...I don't notice it much anymore watching it on my TV...

Serenityraye
08-03-2005, 04:00 AM
Watch Christine's hair during the song 'Music of the Night' the one strand over her shoulder changes in size, length, and curliness. Also after the fight in the grave yard Raoul's blood stain shifts places.
Oh and Christine's stockings reappear just before she removes the Phantom's mask. You can catch a glimpse of her garter.
And maybe someone can clear up what is going on with the rings. The ring Raoul gives Christine looks exactly like the one she gives back to Erik at the end of the movie.

The Phantom
08-03-2005, 04:46 AM
I think the deal with the rings is that Christine had given Erik the ring that ironically was the one that he had stolen before. So I think that he was giving it back to her on the rose. It makes sence... I think. ;)

But yeah, I noticed the part about Christine's hair. It keeps getting wilder and wilder and bushier and more of something as she transgresses down to the dungeons with Erik. Someone made a joke one time about it being the humidity.

Opera Ghost
08-03-2005, 10:17 AM
Yes, Erik snatched the ring from Christines neck in Masquerade, then later he gave it back to her in Point of No Return / Track Down This Murderer. Or at least, if there are two rings they look remarkably similer.

Kellylicious
08-03-2005, 06:40 PM
Well I dont know if anyone mentioned this blooper but when Raoul and the phantom are fighting in the graveyard Rauol's arm gets cut...but when the phantom ties him to the gate its there again...but when he was running down the stairs his arm was fine and you would think he changed for the show...so yea...has anyone else noticed that?

Claidissa
08-04-2005, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by Kellylicious
when Raoul and the phantom are fighting in the graveyard Rauol's arm gets cut...but when the phantom ties him to the gate its there again...but when he was running down the stairs his arm was fine

I think the wound was re-opened from all the physical work n'such. *nods*

Kellylicious
08-04-2005, 03:51 PM
oo ok...i wasnt sure...

toxic fruit
08-05-2005, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by Claidissa
I think the wound was re-opened from all the physical work n'such. *nods*

Nice thought! :) If only all bloopers had explanations...

Oh..and about that candle thing...I think it was supposed to be magical in that he made her think that candles were coming out of water. But I never knew that some were real and some were fake!

Kellylicious
08-06-2005, 02:27 PM
the candle thing popping outta the water and being lit up was supposed to happen like that cuz hes magical...or something like that...thats what my friend was trying to explain...i forget...

MyNameIsFred315
08-06-2005, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by Kellylicious
the candle thing popping outta the water and being lit up was supposed to happen like that cuz hes magical...or something like that...thats what my friend was trying to explain...i forget...
Did you know they could only get the candles to do that once? After they shot that scene the candles wouldn't light themselves again.

toxic fruit
08-06-2005, 06:37 PM
Yeah...its kinda like the detergent commercial. The lady comes out of this water but her clothes are completely dry. How did they do it? They made her move backwards into the water and then made it play like she was going forwards. Same with the candles...they made them go into the water but played it so it would look like they're coming out.

phantom_phan8
08-08-2005, 04:59 AM
I know a couple... One..When Raoul is tied up you see the ropes change .. two in I remember, wen she pulls off the mask he goes to the mirror and shows the right side of his face in the mirror and there is no deformity. and finally... when Madam Giry flashes back. with the young Phantom when he pulls the bag over his head there is also no deformity.
check those out when you see the movie again!!

Luciana
08-13-2005, 08:43 AM
The deformity ones always bother me, but I ignore them. I guess with all the shooting, makeup would be a huge problem. Too much would give the guy a breakout (which may actually give the deformity more... deformity).

I'm not sure if it's a blooper or what, but her arm movements change during 'Think of me' randomly when you change from looking at her back to looking in from the audience.

phantom_phan8
08-25-2005, 01:51 AM
I never noticed that but when I watch it again I will definaitly look for all of them!!

Imaginary
09-03-2005, 09:50 PM
A couple of things me and my cousin noticed were...

When Raoul falls through the trap door into the water there doesn't appear to be the platform thingy that traps him in the water, because if it was there, he'd have landed on it.

Antoher was on the roof while Raoul and Christine are singing 'All I ask of You' Christine has on red lipstick and after the kiss, it's gone, and there is none on Raoul either.

Rianna
09-07-2005, 05:47 PM
Hm.... I always thought the blooper about Christine's hair and makeup was done on purpose.

PhantomofFrance
12-06-2005, 12:52 AM
I found a blooper too. The snow isn't staying on their heads.

Tears and Rain
12-28-2005, 11:49 PM
I also notice something, is not a blooper but it was not suposse to be there. I am not gonna say what it is but if you look at the Phantom's nose in AIAOY Reprise you will notice something.

Tullier
01-04-2006, 09:41 PM
This isn't really a blooper, but during the Maskarade scene when the Phantom is there, Meg's cleavage is crooked. I got a good chuckle out of that one - never seen crooked cleavage before.

POTOPhan
01-05-2006, 11:11 PM
I chalked up the candles coming out of the water as magic, since Madame Giry said he was a magician. He staged it all for Christine - to impress her

*sigh*

HeatherCartier
01-07-2006, 12:57 AM
dont know if this has been said, but during DOM/TDTM the phantoms face looks perfectly normal, then toatally hideous, then reallly red. When carlotta is singing Think of me, she falls before the screen falls on top of her.

HeatherCartier
01-07-2006, 01:01 AM
In wishing you were somehow here again, i lose track of the roses Christine brought with her. she has them in her hands for the song. then when it goes to wandering child, they are gone. (or at least u can't see them.) And christine goes to the cementary wearing a black scarf thing over her head. about two minutes later, it fell off her head, but how is that possible if the whole scene is focused on her.

goldenflower141
01-07-2006, 05:47 PM
Yes, (I don't know if any of these have been said... but..)
during WYWSA she buys five roses and when she goes through the scene in the end she has about a dozen.

Also, in MOTN, when Christine faints, her head is limp in the Phantom's arms. But when they show him entering the bedroom, her head is resting against his shoulder. Her head couldn't of moved that quickly.

Christine's Shadow
01-07-2006, 05:57 PM
lol her roses are still there she puts them down and the mist covers them. The scarf goes really REALLY light and it's blown off her head...

the MOTN thing...good question....O_o..that's weird....lol

PS: Heather, make sure you don't double post. Edit your first post if you want to add something.

goldenflower141
01-07-2006, 06:04 PM
There was a big debate on an Emmy forum about Christine's stockings. :tongue:
It was hilarious! Someone pointed out that when she wakes up and sings 'I Remember' her stockings were off. People were saying 'Maybe he took them off and gave her a foot massage!'
:D
And someone made a note from Erik to Christine saying something... I think it was like this:

Dear Christine,
Fine. Leave with Raoul.
Deny me your love.
But I'm keeping your stockings!
O.G.

It was very funny!
:nod:

NEH
01-08-2006, 12:33 AM
This may have already been mentioned but has anyone noticed my personal favourite blooper???
When Erik locks Chris in her dressing room following Rauol's departure, Madme. Giry is watching and as she walks away, it looks very much like she's gonna run head first into the oppossing wall!!!! That'd hurt!
Hold on, have i already posted this???? Yikes, i'm dippy if i have!

AAW0487
01-13-2006, 05:27 AM
There have been so many bloopers I haven't noticed through out the movie and now i'm dying to go watch it. However, the main one's that have already been said probably where when the Phantom and Christine are singing "The Mirror" Angel of Music and her make up is very light around her eye's and half of her hair is pulled back, but after they have gone down the stair case her eye shadow changes to a dark brown and her hair comes down. And, i'm sure everyone has noticed this, and I don't think it's really a blooper, but when the backdrop fall's on Carlotta there is a strage echoing/microphone voice, and I have no idea what is says? But anyways i'm off to look at these bloopers.
:cd1: :tp1:

eriks_muse87
01-31-2006, 06:52 AM
My personal phave blooper happens to be the part during Phantom of the Opera and Music of the Night where the slit in Christine's skirt keeps switching sides... and by the way, do audio/visual sync errors count as bloopers? If so, then man, you'd have me posting phor months (instead of my current phive minutes).

TTF(ph?)N
Loves ya lots for bringing up this amusing topic.

xplorer
02-04-2006, 12:35 AM
I think I've noticed something when Christine are heading towards the roof. When they're going up the stairs, Christine is in front but when we see them on the roof it is Raoul who is running and Christine comes after him...

Hope that made sence

Phantompherak12
02-18-2006, 05:14 AM
One blooper is when they are coming down the hall in Phantom of the Opera. He has a little torch. First you see it, its there for like 2 seconds and then its gone.

Also in Angel of Music (Phantom) when she is singing Angel of Music guide and garudian...her lips aren't moving.

And also when she is first going into Phantom of the Opera she has no eye makeup on. Then in Music of the Night she gets some. Then when she wakes up she has a bunch on. What did she do it in her sleep or something.

FallenRose123
02-24-2006, 03:39 AM
OOOOH! Pick me! ::raises and waves hand in air:: Anyway when they are in the gondala you know the little stick thingy that he pushes with. Where does he get it? Like he gets in without it and then he has it.

AAW0487
03-17-2006, 06:33 AM
I've already made a post on some of the bloopers i've noticed, but after watching the movie again with one of my friends we discovered another one. When the Phantom starts to sing "Music of the Night" there is a part where he runs up the stairs, and if you look close and pause that scene you don't even barely see Christine. My friend and I zoomed in on the picture and she is there, but she so motionless that it doesn't even look as if she's breathing. It looks as if they might have even used her Mannequin of herself for that specific part. I'm guessing they may have had to do a lot of re-takes of Gerard Butler running up and down the stairs.

:cd1: :tp1:

Phantompherak12
04-04-2006, 11:26 PM
When the auctioneer, is saying "Perhaps we can frighten away the ghost . . . ." his mustache is crooked. And when Gerry is singing MOTO only one part of his hair gets messed up. The right side gets messed up while the left side stays neat. Though he stills look hot.

gerards_angel
04-15-2006, 02:30 AM
Ive seen one when madame giry rolls her eyes during prima donna when the managers say your public needs you..I thought that was funny but i dont know if thats a blooper srry if someone has already mentioned it..

gerards_angel
04-15-2006, 02:32 AM
hahah ive never noticed that haha i will look for it next time I watch lol and ur right haha GB is soo hot lol

JTH
04-17-2006, 11:19 PM
Originally posted by AAW0487
I've already made a post on some of the bloopers i've noticed, but after watching the movie again with one of my friends we discovered another one. When the Phantom starts to sing "Music of the Night" there is a part where he runs up the stairs, and if you look close and pause that scene you don't even barely see Christine. My friend and I zoomed in on the picture and she is there, but she so motionless that it doesn't even look as if she's breathing. It looks as if they might have even used her Mannequin of herself for that specific part. I'm guessing they may have had to do a lot of re-takes of Gerard Butler running up and down the stairs.

:cd1: :tp1:

Sorry but I don't think that one is a blooper. If you read Emmy Rossum's recent fan interview with EmmyRossumFan.com you will find that they did not in fact use a manequin of her for the film, rather they dressed her in "manequin-like" makeup and told her to stand very still! So I guess then it must have been the real Emmy in this scene too.

Raptured Night
04-30-2006, 02:37 AM
I read somewhere that the eyeshadow and poofier hair was done purposefully to serve as a symbolism. Before going with the Phantom you see Christine young and innocent, wearing no make-up and her hair is pulled back some. Once again with the Phantom she suddenly has the brown eyeshadow and her hair looks more poofed up giving her a seductive appeal. What I heard was this was to symbolize her step into womanhood and sexuality. Like she was setting aside her naive visions of an angel and meeting instead a very real flesh and blood man. I hope that makes sense.

And I would say that the drastic change in Erik's deformity from when Christine first unmasks him in PONR to the ending of the movie is also greatly due to lighting. I think the main reason his face is so red in the beginning is because of the lighting of the stage. It's made to look like it's on fire so it would give his face a redder color.

Also here is a rather interesting blooper, in the scene with Raoul in his car and is leaving the Opera House a crewmember is reflected in it's windsheild. Also when Christine removed Erik's mask and he pushes her watch her face she's trying not to laugh. Another is when Raoul looks out of his car and see's Giry she bows her head and raises it but when he looks in the mirror we see her reflection just now raising her head. Another is when Christine and Raoul run up the stairs her hair is loose, when they reach the roof it is pulled back in a fairly elaborate fashion. And right after Erik kills Joseph Buquet and she runs to Raoul and says "Raoul we're not safe here." her lips are not moving her mouth is just open.

And the last one I caught was during Don Juan Triumphant when Erik and Christine go up the scaffolding during "Point Of No Return." round bolts are seen in the wood. They should have been square nails since in 1870 their were no round bolts. (Yeah history nerd.)

But that's all I have caught so far, I've watched the movie a million times but I bet their are more. *Goes off to watch it again.*

AvantGarde
04-06-2007, 05:44 PM
During the final scene in the lair, when Christine kisses Erik, you cna see the shadow of the camera as it moves around them.

(PS> toxic fruit, I LAHVE your banner. Tom Welling, GAH HOTNESS!!!! He PWNS! :))

Angel's Muse
04-21-2007, 06:03 PM
I found this on the internet quite recently.

Apparently, when the chandelier falls, when the camera pans across the crowd, there are people in street clothes visible on the screen. I haven't found them yet, though.

The first time I watched the movie, I noticed nothing, but after I read a topic like this on PFN, I started looking out for bloopers. I could believe I hadn't seen them before!

masquerading rose
06-05-2007, 10:50 PM
What I found interesting is that during that black-and-white scene where old Raoul is watching the couple looking at rings, you can see the logo of the store. The logo is a swan, but that store (yes its a real store) didn't have that logo until the mid 1980's. It was differnt during that time.

Somthing else I noticed during 'Masquerade', the camera pans up and the man with the half white mask, half black mask does a dance from Cats.

Angel's Muse
06-10-2007, 06:31 PM
Wasn't that store Swarovski? Yes, that's a real company that deals mostly in crystal, I believe. They supplied the crystal for the chandelier. There's a Swarovski store in Brighton (ridiculously expensive, of course).

A dance from Cats? LOL. I never saw that!

masquerading rose
06-10-2007, 08:32 PM
Yeah.

Did anyone else notice that while Erik is carrying Christine, she hits her head on a tassel?

Angel's Muse
06-11-2007, 07:26 PM
Really?!? I've got to watch out for that next time.

Gerard: You alone can make my song ta-
Emmy: OW! Be careful, will you?
Gerard: Aren't you supposed to be unconcious?
Emmy: Oops. Sorry Joel. Zzzzzz...

There are a lot of bloopers that I haven't noticed yet. I'll watch it again tonight and look out for everything!

masquerading rose
06-11-2007, 07:35 PM
And there are also a lot problems with the candels. They go out without smoke like in the Angel of music(I) scene and the music of the night scene.



Did anyone else see the "maniquin"'s eye twitch? Maybe it was just my imagination.


If you slow down the movie or pause it during Think of me, You will see that the audiance in upper-lefthand-corner are really legless maniquins.

PhAnToMeSs07
07-13-2007, 07:44 PM
OMG, it is funny when she hits her head on the tassel....I saw it. Also, watch when she faints into his arms at that part. There is a candle lit behind her before she faints and after, the candle has gone out. From the position she fell, her hair would have had to smother it. It is funny. And ya know, I am not going back to page one to see what has been posted and what hasn’t. The missing stockings are great too.

Oh, and I noticed where she almost started laughing...I noticed that the first time I watched it. There is a website somewhere with a ton of it. I printed them off and went through the list with the movie. Somethings I saw, some I didn’t. There are three pages of bloopers on it.

http://www.moviemistakes.com/film4658

Go check it out...especially if you are bored.

masquerading rose
07-16-2007, 11:03 PM
On the during All I ask of You reprise, when Erik breaks the petals off the rose and throws it on the ground, there are only half the number of petals that are supposed to be on a rose and half the number Gerry ripped off.

Rose of Phantom
08-01-2007, 03:43 AM
Okay, I don't really have anything new to add really, but I am just wondering everyone says that bed is a swan bed. Yet, when I watched the movie, I thought it looked much more like a peacock than a swan. Maybe that's just me, but I swear it looks like a peacock and not a swan.

Also, many people have talked about the part where Christine enters through the mirror; first she has no make-up, then later she is wearing black eyeshadow and her hair is poofier. Yes, I can see how that would be viewed as a blooper, but it actually isn't. Andrew Lloyd Webber and Joel Schumacher said that this is to represent her "sexual awakening". I have no idea what that means but that is what they said.

AshyLeStrange
12-16-2007, 10:38 PM
The only thing I've noticed is that here and there, voices don't match up to the music. Also, I did notice that the mask couldn't have covered the disfiguration that is shown in the scene on the stage where Christine pulls of his mask.

PhantomonaBudget
12-17-2007, 01:17 AM
The thing about the Don Juan mask and it not covering the (so-called) deformity is that it was probably used in conjunction with some sort of makeup as well. Gerik's already wearing a wig in that scene, so I wouldn't put it past him to apply some sort of makeup cover to complete the illusion.

But that's just me trying to explain what appears to be a glaring error. I won't get started on the rest of the film.

MllePaula
12-17-2007, 02:05 AM
The thing about the Don Juan mask and it not covering the (so-called) deformity is that it was probably used in conjunction with some sort of makeup as well. Gerik's already wearing a wig in that scene, so I wouldn't put it past him to apply some sort of makeup cover to complete the illusion.

But that's just me trying to explain what appears to be a glaring error. I won't get started on the rest of the film.

The Companion Book published for the movie actually mentions it...during the "Seal My Fate" scene, he's applied make-up and put on a wig. But in the final edit, we only got to see him adjusting his wig.

So, you're right.

PhantomonaBudget
12-17-2007, 09:15 PM
Oh, excellent. You'd think I'd be smart and look in the companion book too, but nah. That was just a "Well that's how I'd do it" guess. To be honest, I like the idea of him using that particular mask in Don Juan, because of the fact it leaves the forehead exposed. Since he managed to use makeup cover to disguise the deformity, it makes it less obvious it's him. Ridiculous body type difference between him and Piangi aside, it's quite clever. The only problem is that people not terribly familiar with wigs and makeup may not make that assumption on their own. As a result, that doesn't make it terribly effective.

Phantom22
12-19-2007, 08:03 PM
I am surprised nobody has mentioned this obvious blooper, well only if you have the widescreen version. Ok, so when the Phantom is going to break the mirrors suddenly the manequin is wearing the veil again (we all know that Christing took it off and dropped it on the floor) and then when the crowd appears in the lair and meg climbs out of the water it is on the ground again, where Christine took it off. You really cannot notice it in fullscreen although I thought I saw it until I confirmed it with the widescreen version. That has to be the blooper that bugs me the most. Also, regarding the mirror part, the second mirror he breaks was originally covered, of course until he goes to to break it, then suddenly it is not. And yet another thing, though I would not consider it a blooper much but on the second mirror you can see the wire that holds it so that it does not fall.

Another one, again you notice with widescreen, when the music box plays just before 'I Remember...' and when they show it playing at the end before they show the Phantom looking at it, they are the same shots. Well, maybe not the exact ones but they filmed them at the same time. You know this because there are two candles on the table next to the music box which (in widescreen) you see when they show the bed just before Christine wakes but at the end with the Phantom only the music box is on the table, no candles.

I am not sure if this is one yet, I still have to check it out to confirm it but when we see the Phantom walking holding the ring watching r/c depart on the boat in the background is the table with the music box on it. Well we know that when Meg comes in the mask is on the table in front of the music box but in this particular scene with the Phantom you cannot see it. It is not a big deal of couse but just something I noticed.

Ok, something else I noticed. When r/p/c are singing the PONR reprise Christine is not holding the ring. You can tell this by looking at her hands and how she moves them and they are not closed as if holding something.

And at the Masquerade when the Phantom is descending down the stairs he actually should be holding the finished score of Don Juan Triumphant. The only thing I figured was maybe he had it strapped to him or something, I don't know.

Just a few things, hope you guys enjoyed it and will check them out. After reading the ones about the camera shadows and reflections I was sure to check that out. I believe I noticed pretty much everything else. That is what happens when you watch it everyday! :)

Oh yeah, just an extra tid bit, not a blooper exactly but the designers repeated one element which I found to be interesting. When the Phantom and Chrsitine are in the boat they pass two structures of men which appear to be holding up the opera house, lair, whatever. Well you notice them again when Firmin is going into the Opera Populaire on the door, smaller versions of course. And they repeat yet again on the exterior of Chrsitine's father's grave.

phantom's_rose
03-28-2008, 06:28 AM
I have caught a couple, but there is another thread for this. They are all on that, but in the crowd, the audiance...or whatever, some of the people are dummies. And Christine magically changes dresses twice: when she is about to go to the graveyard, she has a white dress, to a black dress. And her Don Juan dress to the wedding dress. There are a few more but I am too lazy to type them.

phan-atic
05-05-2008, 05:52 AM
Doesn't the phantom use a false forehead and cheek?

cornholianphantomess
05-05-2008, 01:30 PM
I noticed in Think of Me,when she sings the"Ah,ah,Ahhh"s,you can see her gum in her mouth.And it drives my friends brother crazy.And,when P+C kiss,you can see on the back of his neck,the wire that pulls his eyelid down to make the droopy eye he has.

phan-atic
05-10-2008, 09:00 AM
Yes, the gum...

littlelotty004
05-14-2008, 07:59 AM
ok so I cant remember who said it but it was about how when christine walked to the mirror in angel of music that her lips wern't moving. I think this was done on purpose and that it is symbolic of the words " a voice from above, and in my dreams, he was always there"
aka he knows vodo and can read her thoughts.;)

also the other miss happ is during the end of "phantom of the opera" when the phantom steps out of the boat, Christine is still hitting the high note:eek:, and as he steps out the boat rocks from side to side: if she was actually singing, (hitting the high note)her voice would have been affected by that.:eek:

tiannangel
05-14-2008, 09:41 AM
Yes, It would have at least wobbled a bit. But bear in mind they pre recorded everything, as all movies are done anyway. So they really couldn't help that fact.

I think most bloopers are said in this topic already...I haven't found anymore, but I'll keep looking :D

tiannangel
06-06-2008, 09:07 AM
I hope people don't mind that I bdouble post, since the last post was a while ago, but I found another blooper! well, scene continuity to be exact.

In MOTN, the last two lines when Erik caresses Christine face, theres a close up of her face, then we switch to his. In the close up, you can see he has already traced her jawline, but as soon as we switch to the other view, his fingers are back on her cheek, and tracing down again.

It was really subtile, so I didn't realise til now!

Madame le Courayer
06-19-2008, 05:15 PM
This has to do with the soundtrack. Anybody notice how, during the Down Once More part it sounds as though GB is saying, "Down we plunge to the crison of my mind..."
Crison? The lyric is supposed to be "prison" but I swear I hear a distinct "c" and not a "p" when he sings this part. Am I having hearing problems or has anyone else noted this? I listened to it several times and always heard "crison". Maybe it's GB's thick Scottish accent causing difficulty for him? I do note him in many parts trying to squelch it. He also sounds sometimes as if he has a cold when he's singing...strange...:confused:

angelgirl
06-21-2008, 06:23 PM
Most of these I haven't noticed, except maybe the Meg one 'cause it's so obvious. But does anybody notice that when Raoul falls through the trapdoor, the grate is clearly below him and a few shots later, it is threatening to crush him from above? How weird is that?!
A.G.

tiannangel
06-22-2008, 01:01 AM
Ah yes...the Amazing Teleporting Raoul/Grate!!!

You know, I think we've listed nearly ALL the bloopers so far....I'll be surprised if anyone else manages to find another one...

glamgirlsg
07-29-2009, 09:52 PM
You know the rope that Erik used to kill Buquet? I'd wonder where he got it, but I think I know. You may notice that while being chased he has a rope attached to his pants. Erik may of used that to kill him. Also when he drops onto the stage the rope is gone. That may just be the solution.

The Countess
07-31-2009, 09:09 PM
Christine passes the same headstones, including her own father's crypt, numerous times during Wishing You Were Somehow Here Again. I guess the set that they created was too small.

Phantom13
08-03-2009, 01:52 AM
have you noticed in the beggining when Raoul is riding his carriage in to the Opera house in his carriage there is like a bag of chips someone must have forgotten to take out!?

glamgirlsg
08-03-2009, 09:04 PM
Did anyone notice that during Il Muto there is a gender changing singer?:biglaugh: Theres a shot behind the curtain and the man in yellow turns around and mouths "go,go,go" but the voice we hear is female. He even looks like a girl when we first see his face. Oh well.

La Masque
08-03-2009, 09:37 PM
OMIGOSH!!! I have seen that movie sooooo....many times I have seen tons of bloopers.

Ok, The first one I noticed was actually during the masquerade. When Raoul falls into the "torture chamber" while he jumps in over after Raoul, the camera angle jacks up for about two seconds and you can see Madame Giry waiting for the punjab to fall.

Another blooper I noticed was that while swordfighting in the cemetery, right before Raoul is about to shishkabob Erik, there is suddenly a cross hanging around his neck.

The biggest blooper in my opinion was when Erik was singing PONR, you can see where they have edited in where he has the prosthetics under his mask, because the mask itself changes shape, and so does his hair.

You may also notice that while Raoul is running to save Christine and finally gets into the lair, he is suddenly wearing the shirt he wore in the graveyard. (It's still bloodstained.) But it is miraculously no longer ripped. You can also see various odvious changes in makeup through certain scene changes. I have loads more, just lemmie know if you want 'em.

RoseRed
08-05-2009, 09:14 PM
The BIGGEST blooper that I have seen, in both the play and the movie, is the lifesize dummy of Christine dressed as a bride...Wedding Dresses in the 1800s were most often BLACK, or some other darker color. Only the wealthiest people could afford a white dress, which would be a dress that would never be worn again (unless the daughter used it). Many wedding dresses in the pre-Civil War US were blue. However, if you are going for impact, and not accuracy, the wedding ensemble was lovely...

The Countess
08-05-2009, 10:57 PM
That's a very interesting bit of information. I never knew that. I suppose that for the modern audience to understand it was a wedding it had to be white. No to mention Erik was quite wealthy from the managers. Anyway, thanks for sharing that with us. I find that very interesting actually.

Hidden Away
08-07-2009, 03:47 PM
It's not really a blooper but hasn't anyone noticed how Emmy's mouth is always peered open or else wide up but saying nothing. It doesn't make sense if she was making an artisti choice of opening her mouth often--perhaps to show her confusion or wonder and amazement in something--or was it Joel's decision. Just a crazy thought, but it really got on my cousin's nerves. He started counting how many times she opened her mouth after it has closed a bit. Considering that it's a movie wouldn't they have a few of the scenes done where she didn't open her mouth as much. It just looks odd.

RANDOM...i know ;)

The Countess
08-07-2009, 03:53 PM
Haha, yes, Emmy rarely closed her mouth.

In my own randomness, I've noticed that they must have had many takes in filming MOTN parce que he only blinks on screen 5 times. Random, yes. Blooper, not so much.

Anyway, I'm not sure if this was mentioned or not, but at the begining of Masquerade, the performer's mouth's don't match their words.

Hidden Away
08-07-2009, 04:06 PM
I remember making a list of things that were wrong in the movie because it was a critique class and we could chose any movie because we all got tired of the black and white films....seriously it hurts your eyes.

*goes to find the list*

The_Last_Refrain
08-09-2009, 04:49 PM
This isn't a blooper but its still weird
Just before Christine faints into the Phantoms arms after MOTN, there's a shot of the christine manikin; but its not a manikin. Thats emmy rossum - originally they made one but when the eyes were in it, it didn't look like her, so they put waxy makeup on her and made her stand verrrrrry still ; you can sortof see the difference in the final scene when the phantom takes the veil off it and puts it on Christine

I saw a good one the last time I watched it; In PONR, when the phantom says 'What sweet seduction lies before us,' he slides his hands down her arm, and in doing so unclips her bracelet, its dead noticeable

also after Buquet dies, when Christine says 'Raoul, we aren't safe here,' her mouth doesn't move

Just remembered this one

when christine faints into the phantom;s arms, as he carries her to the swan pecock bed thing, she gets hit in the face with a tassell LOL

Hidden Away
08-12-2009, 02:34 AM
I don't have a blooper but I would love to comment.

No return of your braclet: haha that would make me laugh...if only i noticed!

They record and then film and perhaps she forgot the lyric.....it's okay that Emmy did it, but when the director/editor don't see that...odd.....

phantom's_rose
01-07-2010, 07:58 PM
Don't know if these had already been posted, but here are some things that bother me:

Gerry's hair looks so nice at the begining of the movie...but when Emmy unmasks him at the end, it's all...ew. And if you watch closely, the deformity grows when she unmasks him, and it looks all pink and fresh, but when they're down in the cellars, it looks five times better.

And I saw a few things about this, but I'm going to second them. Emmy goes through so many dress changes and makeup alternations in so little time...for instance, during DOM/TDTM, she changes out of her Don Juan dress into the wedding dress...I mean, maybe she was forced to, but I wouldn't feel comfortable changing in front of Erik if I was Christine at that point.

There are so many more, but they've all pretty much been covered. It wasa good movie, but they could of been a little bit more careful in my opinion.

witch
01-11-2010, 10:53 AM
The biggest one I think we've all noticed is the whole stockings thing after Christine faints and then wakes up however....

I have noticed a few others and read some off sites that I didn't notice until I watched and looked for them.

* When Christine is in the Phantom's lair for the second time, after the Phantom puts the veil on her head, the camera has a close up of him (during the lines 'an eternity of this before your eyes') and the back of Chirstine's head can be seen not wearing the veil. When the camera pans back to her, she is wearing the veil and removes it a little later.

* At the end when Meg steps out of the water, her pants are wet. However, when she enters the bedroom and finds the Phantom's mask, her pants are perfectly dry.

angel of the night
01-12-2010, 12:02 AM
I dont know if its considered a blooper but in the music of the night song when christine passes out an erik "Gerard" catches her he has to like get a grip on her like hes about to drop her I chuckle everytime I see it wondering if he ever droped her lol
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